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Material => Pincéis => Semogueiros => Topic started by: Chadguy on December 30, 2013, 11:44:31 pm
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Please excuse the English, but I am in Lisbon for 6 weeks and have yet to find a place with a wide assortment of Semogue brushes.
Could anybody please lead me on to the right place.
Obrigato.
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maybe the best place in Lisbon for Smeogue brushes is:
Cutelaria Polycarpo, in the historical zone of Libon (downtown - Baixa)
Adress: Rua de São Nicolau 19-31
http://www.polycarpo.com/
Also in:
Pote de Prata, a small shop that sells decoration items, and also classic shaving items (a little far away from the center):
Address: Rua Marquesa de Alorna, nº 27A
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Obrigato. I was in Alvalade, yesterday and will be back today!
Curious on your own taste in brushes.
Also, all of the brushes seem to have numbers but not names. But
http://loja.avidaportuguesa.com/en/pesquisa/pesquisa.php?chave=Semogue&Submit.x=-1011&Submit.y=-494
...has only names?
I am thinking of buying a badger brush, but am I overlooking a bounty of brushes with the boar brush-head?
Again, thank you.
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Hi,
If you buy some Semogue Brush, just post a photo of your acquisitions.
And we thank you choosing Lisbon for your holidays.
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Thanks Rui,
Will do. Do you have any personal favourites?
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Well, I own the 1305, 1438, SOC Boar, Semogue 2010 (Badger) and the Semogue BC LE Boar.
BTW, the 1305 and 1438 are for trade.
IMO, Oversaturn is the perfect user to help you.
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Obrigato. I was in Alvalade, yesterday and will be back today!
Curious on your own taste in brushes.
Also, all of the brushes seem to have numbers but not names. But
http://loja.avidaportuguesa.com/en/pesquisa/pesquisa.php?chave=Semogue&Submit.x=-1011&Submit.y=-494
...has only names?
I am thinking of buying a badger brush, but am I overlooking a bounty of brushes with the boar brush-head?
Again, thank you.
In that shop, the choice is somewhat limited.
They have a Semogue 730 (the badger one), and the other two are low-end brushes, with plastic rings.
Still, the shop is nice to visit, has many curious and traditional portuguese items.
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I went to the shop in Alvalade and bought the 2010 badger. I suspect it is not the LE Silvertip, though, or are all of the 2010s that? The price was 23.90E.
Christmas had them at a limited supply and I think all of the other ones left were synthetic.
My other latest brush is a high-end Omega badger silvertip so I can compare.
There is some talk on a couple of sites between wood and acrylic. I like the natural feel/look/ of wood but I have a problem. They had no stands left and I am in Lisbon for another month. How best to dry the brush? I thought to tie a chord to it and hang it. Any other ideas.
Obrigato. Feliz Ano Novo.
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In Polycarpo they have some stands.
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In most drugstores is possible to buy an acrylic dripstand.
They have those at Oriental (http://www.barbearclassico.com/index.php?topic=108.0), S. Pereira Leão (http://www.barbearclassico.com/index.php?topic=1337.0), S. Domingos (http://www.barbearclassico.com/index.php?topic=111.0), Polycarpo (http://www.barbearclassico.com/index.php?topic=254.0)and many others, and generally for less than €2.
The Semogue 2010 is a pure badger brush. It's right, it is not silvertip.
The others at the shop were boar brushes, Semogue doesn't produce synthetic brushes.
To dry the brush, you can well leave the brush with the knot upwards, after give it a good shake, no problem with that, it will dry properly.
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Thank you for where I can buy the acrylic stand.
That's what I was wondering about, the synthetic. But the owner insisted that it was synthetic.
So is the 2010 a good brush? I now have this cognitive dissonance that I should have tried out a boar brush? What's your feeling on the relative merits? And if a boar, which boar to try out first?
Many thanks.
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Thank you for where I can buy the acrylic stand.
That's what I was wondering about, the synthetic. But the owner insisted that it was synthetic.
So is the 2010 a good brush? I now have this cognitive dissonance that I should have tried out a boar brush? What's your feeling on the relative merits? And if a boar, which boar to try out first?
Many thanks.
It's as oversaturn says, Semogue doesn't produces synth brushes, so the store owner must be mistaken.
If you're interested in a boar brush, good recomendations are the 1305 and the 1800. The 830 has the same knot as the 1305 but has 10% more hair and an acrylic handle if that's your preference. If you like bigger brushes, the 2000 is a very good one, but it opens a lot after the break-in period, so it's more suitable for bowl lathering (although I use it myself for face lathering ;D can't beat that soft wall of piggy hair :D)
Don't know if you already saw this one but here it is:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BB8GQbmCEAIUSpF.jpg:large)
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As FatSlim says, the 1800 is a good choice, specially if you like wooden handles and want a versatile brush. 1305 and 830 are versatile brushes as well.
If you are a die-hard facelatherer, you may then want to pick a shorted-loft Semogue, like the 620 or 1438. :)
The 2010 is a quality brush. Whether you gonna like it or not depends on your personal preferences. Some people don't like pure badger brushes and find them prickly - although the pure badger hair from Semogue is not as prickly as some pure badgers from other brands. I kind of like it - it works well, it produces lather very quickly and doesn't hog the lather. It also dries out quickly. :)
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Really nice of you guys.
I will do the rounds and let you know.
Curious why the 2010 is not on that chart? Hmmmm....
And I'm also curious why you guys have so many brushes? I have a top quality Omega badger but I am away from home for several months and thought to travel light. So I want to get another brush because of the great creams here. Do you guys lather up with different brushes for different soaps or creams? Is it a morning ritual? Choosing the brush and making yourself happy?
Obrigato once again.
Sheldon
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Really nice of you guys.
I will do the rounds and let you know.
Curious why the 2010 is not on that chart? Hmmmm....
And I'm also curious why you guys have so many brushes? I have a top quality Omega badger but I am away from home for several months and thought to travel light. So I want to get another brush because of the great creams here. Do you guys lather up with different brushes for different soaps or creams? Is it a morning ritual? Choosing the brush and making yourself happy?
Obrigato once again.
Sheldon
That chart is only for boar hair shaving Brushes...
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And I'm also curious why you guys have so many brushes?
Variety is the spice of life! :D
Some folks have just one brush, and are happy with that. Others have a few, while others have a lot of them and like to collect them.
Just different approaches to the world of wet-shaving, that's all. Take your pick, and do what makes you happy. :)
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Hi,
Wanted to let you guys know my experience in Lisbon buying shaving products, brushes, etc.:
As I mentioned, the place where I bought the 2010 in Alvalade only had a few brushes but had a room of upscale mens products, some brushes from them that were made by Semogue. The shop assistant knew the brushes were boar, but the owner did not. Both recommended the 2010. They didn't have Musgo Real because the owner said that Ach Brito is available in supermarkets. They have Confianca.
I went to Drugstore S. Domingo's, and the person who showed me the brushes kept insisting that the code on the brushes were internal to the store and not the numbers of the brushes. One I saw ended with 2020, another with 830. When I asked him the difference between the brushes, he pointed to the brush-head/knot but nothing more. But they had Top Secret which I wanted to try.
Polycarp was closed for inventory when I went.
I also managed to pic up Lavanda and Veleiro, and 444.
Interesting enough most places I have gone in the store carry Omega and diss/diminish not only Semogue but all shaving products from Portugal.
All the best.
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That last is a sad affair here, not appreciating your own. Why is this? Still trying to figure it out....
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That last is a sad affair here, not appreciating your own. Why is this? Still trying to figure it out....
Hi Sheldon.
I'm pretty sure they're the exception and not the rule. Here in the forum we praise all Portuguese shaving products. Also, if you read the reviews on the other wetshaving forums (both Europeans and Americans) they also think our products are very good.
Some store clerks might say that because they're not very into the "art" of wet-shaving, given the replies you had when you asked for a more detailed comparision between one brush and another.
This forum is a much more safer place to ask for directions when buying Portuguese products than the local clerks, in my honest opinion.
I hope you enjoy your stay.
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Lest see your aqcuisitions ;D
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Hi,
Wanted to let you guys know my experience in Lisbon buying shaving products, brushes, etc.:
As I mentioned, the place where I bought the 2010 in Alvalade only had a few brushes but had a room of upscale mens products, some brushes from them that were made by Semogue. The shop assistant knew the brushes were boar, but the owner did not. Both recommended the 2010. They didn't have Musgo Real because the owner said that Ach Brito is available in supermarkets. They have Confianca.
I went to Drugstore S. Domingo's, and the person who showed me the brushes kept insisting that the code on the brushes were internal to the store and not the numbers of the brushes. One I saw ended with 2020, another with 830. When I asked him the difference between the brushes, he pointed to the brush-head/knot but nothing more. But they had Top Secret which I wanted to try.
Polycarp was closed for inventory when I went.
I also managed to pic up Lavanda and Veleiro, and 444.
Interesting enough most places I have gone in the store carry Omega and diss/diminish not only Semogue but all shaving products from Portugal.
All the best.
That´s weard! that is all I can say. It is well known between us, portuguese people, that we produce good products in almost everything we produce. Personal care products is no exception.
For some reason Semogue has so many fans. Just see international fóruns and you´ll see how many Semogues there is around the world.
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I like to go to S. Domingos drugstore but (you probably noticed that) their strength lies with hair care products for women (don't take your wife/girlfriend there... you'll leave with a negative account balance, trust me :D) and the professional market. One time I even gave a small lecture to one of the owners about the Vie-Long brushes they were selling :D
It is as Leon says, the drugstores clerks don't care very much about this hobby because is a niche market and I believe they don't know that it even exists, that's why they have all those Omega brushes. They get what it's thrown at them by the middle man.
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Just to clarify. I absolutely know that Semogue is a great brush. I absolutely know that the Portuguese make great products. All I was saying is that I and my wife have experienced here a 'general tendency' of Portuguese dismissing their own. You almost have to plead with them to give Portuguese a chance. And I have. And I will continue....